tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post1709991159156438955..comments2023-11-06T00:01:30.085+13:00Comments on New Zeal: Mark Eden-Should The Police Be Monitoring This Man?Trevor Loudonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17040453691836232676noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-30092485048110094342008-12-23T08:57:00.000+13:002008-12-23T08:57:00.000+13:00*claims to believe in liberty**believes protestors...*claims to believe in liberty*<BR/><BR/>*believes protestors should be disrupted by the state*<BR/><BR/>*is a libertian*<BR/><BR/>*and wears a helmet in bed*HI I AM DUCKMONSTER?https://www.blogger.com/profile/14335457728780697240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-27596076521605995332008-12-22T11:51:00.000+13:002008-12-22T11:51:00.000+13:00Watch out for those video cameras Sam.Watch out for those video cameras Sam.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-14009888212716552432008-12-22T11:04:00.000+13:002008-12-22T11:04:00.000+13:00Terrifying. Eden steals chickens from battery farm...Terrifying. Eden steals chickens from battery farms. Who knows where those chickens end up? Quite likely as a kebab sandwiched between pita bread on some mad muslim bomber's dinner plate. <BR/><BR/>Obviously the anti-terrorism special forces need to watch him carefully before he goes to the next level and starts stealing turkeys. Then no police informant will be safe in their beds at night for fear that a bespectacled face might appear at the window asking "Is this the battery farm or do I have the wrong address?"<BR/><BR/>Cheers<BR/>Sam BuchananAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-57702628198138551522008-12-21T22:23:00.000+13:002008-12-21T22:23:00.000+13:00Looks like Eden has had a bloody good career.Looks like Eden has had a bloody good career.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-72456830082608297312008-12-21T21:05:00.000+13:002008-12-21T21:05:00.000+13:00There you go... above is a person who is frustrate...There you go... above is a person who is frustrated by his (and no, I'm not PC so you can read whatever gender you like into the word 'his') lack of ability to present a cogent argument.. so he simply resorts to impotent name calling!<BR/><BR/>Go for it. merry Christmas to you.Dave Mannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15264331694328629975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-14332109798049314872008-12-21T15:39:00.000+13:002008-12-21T15:39:00.000+13:00A perfect illustration of my point about the cross...A perfect illustration of my point about the cross-feretilisation of activism across different groups can be found on page A7 of today's SST, where one Simon Oosterman is pictured at an anti-Youth Rates protest and is also reported as having been pepper sprayed by police in 2005 during an anti-GE protest at the Forest research Institute in Rotorua.<BR/><BR/>So that's at least two 'worthy causes' that this Oosterman scum is wasting his useless life on. How many others are there? And how many other parasites like this man are spending their bottomfeeding lives stirring up trouble on a variety of 'causes' just for the buzz of being 'anti' something?Dave Mannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15264331694328629975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-65073005828876234822008-12-21T01:33:00.000+13:002008-12-21T01:33:00.000+13:00I know from inside information that Mark Eden is l...I know from inside information that Mark Eden is liberating animals in order to form an Animal Satanic Soviet Jihad Force that he will use to take over the world!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-62300556008872251582008-12-20T19:46:00.000+13:002008-12-20T19:46:00.000+13:00As an ex-activist myself many years ago I have see...As an ex-activist myself many years ago I have seen how there is a cross-fertilisation of dienchantment between a huge range of groups.<BR/><BR/>Obviously I am not saying that 'all activists are bombers'. That would be stupid.... but the likes of Greenpeace, Animal Rights, so-called Social Justice groups etc are the breeding and training grounds for tomorrow's criminal damage and social disruption brigade.<BR/><BR/>Read my words. I'm not saying they ALL are potentially violent criminals.... I am saying that that's where they come from (the activist criminals, that is, obviously not gang members and the baby killers).Dave Mannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15264331694328629975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-9454448253160981682008-12-20T16:27:00.000+13:002008-12-20T16:27:00.000+13:00Dave you are talking through a hole in your head. ...Dave you are talking through a hole in your head. Do you have any actual evidence for any of the ridiculous assertions you are making (you know like surveys, demographic data, longtitudinal studies and the like) or are you just making things up as you go along. <BR/><BR/>You say it is apparent from reading scoop and indymedia that todays leaflet distributors become tomorrows bombers. What exactly on those sites has led you to that conclusion. Come on, lets actually hear some evidence here<BR/><BR/>As someone who was involved with activism and now has a very conventional "establishment" job teaching the next generation, I find your remarks to be quite bizarre<BR/><BR/>Michael MorrisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-80431230750510072892008-12-20T15:52:00.000+13:002008-12-20T15:52:00.000+13:00Reid-keep stoking that paranoia.Dave-have you been...Reid-keep stoking that paranoia.<BR/><BR/>Dave-have you been involved in activism yourself?Trevor Loudonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17040453691836232676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-87656655267527167762008-12-20T10:48:00.000+13:002008-12-20T10:48:00.000+13:00(No relation, by the way hahahaha!)I have firsthan...(No relation, by the way hahahaha!)<BR/><BR/>I have firsthand experience of the fact that there is an interlinking of membership, techniques and broad objectives between a huge range of activist groups in New Zealand.<BR/><BR/>If a person is, for example, an anti-GE activist, then they will almost inevitably at some time exchange intelligence, techniques and ideas with other groups like the Zapatistas, 'peace' groups or animal 'rights' organisations - most of which view our society as the enemy which must be attacked and overthrown.<BR/><BR/>This is how these people operate. Being an 'activist' doesn't necessarily mean that you are exclusively committed to any particular cause per se. What it means is that you are angry and pissed off at the society you live in and want to change it to reflect your views about how it should be. The activist cell that you operate in is simply the means by which you feed your own sense of righteousness and get your metaphoric (and sometimes actual) rocks off.<BR/><BR/>If you read Scoop, Indymedia and any number of other radical sites, it should be glaringly apparent that tomorrow's bombers, saboteurs and Tuhoe guerillas start off as today's Greenpeace leaflet distributors outside your local New World.<BR/><BR/>I am shocked that Howard Broad's bumbling politically correct plodders were entrusted with the task of checking up on these people instead of the SIS, under whose pervue this scene more properly belongs.Dave Mannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15264331694328629975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-41318477960012242042008-12-20T10:04:00.000+13:002008-12-20T10:04:00.000+13:00Mark Eden was very close to Rob Gilchrist the poli...Mark Eden was very close to Rob Gilchrist the police informer. Maybe Mark Eden is also a police informer. Not only should the police be monitoring Mark Eden but so should the radical subversive groups that he claims to support. It is usually the person you least expect who is the double agent and they go out of their way to appear to be a true believer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-79009909876161028002008-12-20T07:03:00.000+13:002008-12-20T07:03:00.000+13:00Eden is obviously just one step away from heading ...Eden is obviously just one step away from heading up the Kyber Pass, Afghanistan, to train for his inevitable Jihad. He needs to be locked up in Guantanamo for this precrime before another 9/11happening here. <BR/><BR/>So rapido rapido, someone report him quickly to the precrimes unit called the Special Intelligencia Group!Trevour Loudoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01700052219983690141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-4550392317778600172008-12-19T21:19:00.000+13:002008-12-19T21:19:00.000+13:00Oh hell yes, I think that giving hundreds of thous...Oh hell yes, I think that giving hundreds of thousands of dollars every year to police to monitor someone who films himself breaking the law is a very good idea. I think that given my libertarian beliefs I think the state should be putting their resources into the Mr Eden. I mean its not like the police could use his own footage and his admitting to when and where and what he did to prosecute him (as they did)instead we need covert police officers and counter terrorist units. I think its very good that the police didnt have to get warrants to attend meetings, get on email lists, hold conversations etc. Bestest of all I think its great that the state is paying someone to get into fights with cops, encourage people to commit burglary and bomb threats etc as Rob did on many occasions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-30532634014451748642008-12-19T19:55:00.000+13:002008-12-19T19:55:00.000+13:00Those videos were indeed disturbing. I think a res...Those videos were indeed disturbing. I think a responsible police force should be monitoring farmers who treat animals like that. On the other hand, I note that Mr Eden is opposed to hurting animals or humans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-29829178940970483082008-12-19T19:23:00.000+13:002008-12-19T19:23:00.000+13:00lets ask Mr Gilchrist what he thinks of the people...lets ask Mr Gilchrist what he thinks of the people he was spying on . . <BR/>"I know they are good people trying to make a better world."<BR/><BR/>now, why would he say that Trevor?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com