tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post292628061217525164..comments2023-11-06T00:01:30.085+13:00Comments on New Zeal: Trotskyists/George Galloway Want to Lull You to SleepTrevor Loudonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17040453691836232676noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-79376702766219997792007-07-25T07:44:00.000+12:002007-07-25T07:44:00.000+12:00"Exocet, you said they did not. I proved that they..."Exocet, you said they did not. I proved that they did. If you can't get your basic facts straight, or comment without so blatantly lying, then you have no place on this, or any other blog. Go away and do your homework."<BR/><BR/>Oh get the fuck over yourself.<BR/><BR/>You were going to try the old 'OMG the West armed Saddam LOL' bullshit. I called you on it by stating, that no, it was the Soviet Union and China who supplied the bulk of Saddam's weapons and equipment, and in fact from the Iran-Iraq war on Iraq was basically a Soviet client state.<BR/><BR/>So you responded in the classical style of the far-left and accused me of what you were trying to do yourself. Hardly suprising really.<BR/><BR/>Fact is the Iran-Iraq war was a field day for arms suppliers from all over, and no, western companies should not have supplied a brutal thug like Saddam. But at the same time we should not be blind to the fact the the Soviets and China were up to their armpits in this, far more than any western company.<BR/><BR/>Still anon, I cannot expect you to criticize your beloved Soviet Union. Your kind cannot.<BR/><BR/>Don't presume to tell me when,where or how I comment or on what blogs. Orwell's 1984 was meant as a warning, not an instruction manual.<BR/><BR/>If I need to do my homework (and there is always somthing new for me to learn) then you, anon need to get back to school.<BR/><BR/>Love<BR/><BR/>EXOCETAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-34915695043101045782007-07-21T08:27:00.000+12:002007-07-21T08:27:00.000+12:00"Care to damn Moscow, Beijing and Prague for this ..."Care to damn Moscow, Beijing and Prague for this now?"<BR/><BR/>As soon as you damn the US for the same thing. In other words, when hell freezes over.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-46259852845978607762007-07-20T22:25:00.000+12:002007-07-20T22:25:00.000+12:00Well yes it does actually give Galloway moral auth...Well yes it does actually give Galloway moral authority - particularly when people like you borderline personalities are lambasting the shit out of him. <BR/><BR/>Just remember - he was right - your boy the Chickenhawk and President Cheney and the Poodle - they were all wrong. At what horrific cost ? <BR/><BR/>So forgive them their mistakes if you wanna be unrealisticaly kind, but don't heap the shit on the guy who was right !<BR/><BR/>Yeah, borderline personaltites. I reckon that's right on the money...<BR/><BR/><BR/>Ka Kite.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-34364547497565990482007-07-20T10:45:00.000+12:002007-07-20T10:45:00.000+12:00Yes the West sold arms to Hussein - so did the US...Yes the West sold arms to Hussein - so did the USSR, Czechoslovakia and China. Care to damn Moscow, Beijing and Prague for this now?<BR/><BR/>Just because that happened under other governments doesn't give Galloway moral authority. In other words, just because you made mistakes in the past regarding a tyrant does not justify Galloway continuing to make mistakes in supporting him. Two wrongs do not cancel each other out.Libertyscotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12741049550997300680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-76148944296596396912007-07-20T05:13:00.000+12:002007-07-20T05:13:00.000+12:00Here's how much arms the Soviets sent which is alw...Here's how much arms the Soviets sent which is always going to be > than whatever arms the U.S. or mere civilian equipment the U.S. sent to Saddam.mah29001https://www.blogger.com/profile/14534560947847502694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-64985647353936715772007-07-20T05:12:00.000+12:002007-07-20T05:12:00.000+12:00"Bingo. Straight from the horse's mouth. The West ..."Bingo. Straight from the horse's mouth. The West - who pretend to hold the moral high ground - sold arms to a brutal Middle Eastern dictator."<BR/><BR/>You mean the 68 percent of Soviet arms to Saddam means nothing to you anonymous?mah29001https://www.blogger.com/profile/14534560947847502694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-35637931619394522792007-07-19T23:17:00.000+12:002007-07-19T23:17:00.000+12:00"The U.S., only a small percent of equipment was s..."The U.S., only a small percent of equipment was sent to Iraq."<BR/><BR/>Bingo. Straight from the horse's mouth. The West - who pretend to hold the moral high ground - sold arms to a brutal Middle Eastern dictator. <BR/><BR/>Exocet, you said they did not. I proved that they did. If you can't get your basic facts straight, or comment without so blatantly lying, then you have no place on this, or any other blog. Go away and do your homework.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-68688046423254210572007-07-19T11:27:00.000+12:002007-07-19T11:27:00.000+12:00Why don't you fuck off yourself anon.Do not presum...Why don't you fuck off yourself anon.Do not presume to tell me where I can or cannnot comment.<BR/><BR/>Truth is, Saddam got the bulk of his weapons and equipment from the Soviets, and the Warsaw pact countries.<BR/><BR/>The Wikipedia article you quote (a good summary btw) shows this quite quite clearly.<BR/><BR/>Trying to get those on the extreme left wing, like you anon to admit this is impossible, such is thier hatred of 'the west' and the US in particular.<BR/><BR/>EXOCETAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-85225373362194052232007-07-19T04:16:00.000+12:002007-07-19T04:16:00.000+12:00"Except that it's complete truth. I said they sold..."Except that it's complete truth. I said they sold him weapons. They did. You, Exocet, have just lied. Apologise or fuck off."<BR/><BR/>How about the 68 percent of arms from Soviet Russia heading to Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War? Or does that not count? Last time I checked, that's the amount of weaponry the Soviets gave to Saddam.<BR/><BR/>The U.S., only a small percent of equipment was sent to Iraq.mah29001https://www.blogger.com/profile/14534560947847502694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-78032928700711783622007-07-18T22:44:00.000+12:002007-07-18T22:44:00.000+12:00"Except that it's complete bullshit."Except that i..."Except that it's complete bullshit."<BR/><BR/>Except that it's complete truth. I said they sold him weapons. They did. You, Exocet, have just lied. Apologise or fuck off. <BR/><BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_sales_to_IraqAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-23769792293196371532007-07-18T10:17:00.000+12:002007-07-18T10:17:00.000+12:00"you should be catatonic with rage that Western go..."you should be catatonic with rage that Western governments sold him weapons and chemical agents! But...probably not"<BR/><BR/>Except that it's complete bullshit. Saddam got the bulk of his weapons and equpment from the Soviets. Iraq was basically a Soviet client state.<BR/><BR/>Nice to see you back facist-guy Steve. still up to your bullshit I see.<BR/><BR/>EXOCETAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-10212424895999913772007-07-18T06:59:00.000+12:002007-07-18T06:59:00.000+12:00"You completely sidestepped the question."Strange ..."You completely sidestepped the question."<BR/><BR/>Strange how you are lecturing me on "sidestepping" the question. What about the sort of Palestinian Lebanese based terrorist group-Hezbollah where Galloway supported it?<BR/><BR/>How about the 68 percent of support from Soviet Russia to Saddam Hussein during the Iran-Iraq War or is that photo of Rumsfeld just the "sole proof" of U.S. support?mah29001https://www.blogger.com/profile/14534560947847502694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-50961619789875213462007-07-18T06:55:00.000+12:002007-07-18T06:55:00.000+12:00You completely sidestepped the question.You completely sidestepped the question.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-22649549766010985052007-07-18T03:24:00.000+12:002007-07-18T03:24:00.000+12:00"And Mah, talking about pictures....don't know how..."And Mah, talking about pictures....don't know how you can say that crap above....do please recall certain celluloid record of Donald Rumsfeld shaking the hand of "The Butcher" - "being friendly towards Saddam Hussein" to quote you Mah. Yes, it was Baghdad '83,'84 - and The Fetid Fellow walked away with orders for heaps of munitions and helicopters....while he knew, 'cos the US Congress had told him....that The Butcher was gassing the Kurds."<BR/><BR/>Don't come around these parts stating how much you "care" about the Iraqis Steve. When you have gone against the removal of that same dictator.<BR/><BR/>"If you are upset that someone was friendly toward Saddam Hussein while he was living then you should be catatonic with rage that Western governments sold him weapons and chemical agents! But...probably not."<BR/><BR/>How about the likes of Jacque Chirac for giving Saddam nuclear technology and opposed the Iraq war to remove him? How about Germany's former Prime Minister for also being behind the very same dictator? Let's not forget Putin or Jintao either.mah29001https://www.blogger.com/profile/14534560947847502694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-48252696841961088632007-07-17T23:12:00.000+12:002007-07-17T23:12:00.000+12:00Trev,I'd hardly say that you can so hastily, refle...Trev,<BR/><BR/>I'd hardly say that you can so hastily, reflexively, despatch Gorgeous's warnings (right on the money as Anonymous above says)....to the "Yeah, OK, he's right...but so what?" bin. <BR/><BR/>That is a basic failure of balanced judgment Trevor. Like - "No, no, no matter what, he's a leftie - I'll never give him a due !" Bit childish there Trev. I mean, I regulary express my felicity for Donald Rumsfeld !<BR/><BR/>This "Yeah, OK, he's right so what ?" thing....it's already eaten up more American lives than were cruelly snuffed out in 9/11 - by "The Enemy" for Christ's Sake. That's to say nothing of the lives of several hundred thousand (of course) relatively less important Iraqis !<BR/><BR/>And The Chickenhawk spends $US1.5 billion per day....per day !.... doing God's work !!! <BR/><BR/>And touches the whole world - badly, negatively. And this is merely "Yeah....so what?" stuff ?<BR/><BR/>He was right - your man was/is wrong. And still you support That Chickenhawk, you Trev, cleverly and quietly ....which is disingenuous actually....and Mah My Mate....well, "vociferously" understates it. <BR/><BR/>Is there anything in that picture that I'm required to respect ? Anyway, see you guys at the <BR/>meeting.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Yours, etc.<BR/><BR/>And Mah, talking about pictures....don't know how you can say that crap above....do please recall certain celluloid record of Donald Rumsfeld shaking the hand of "The Butcher" - "being friendly towards Saddam Hussein" to quote you Mah. Yes, it was Baghdad '83,'84 - and The Fetid Fellow walked away with orders for heaps of munitions and helicopters....while he knew, 'cos the US Congress had told him....that The Butcher was gassing the Kurds. <BR/><BR/>I'll bet all Gorgeous George Galloway ever got was a "comp" at the Havana Whatever Hotel and an open drinks tab. Not like Rummy. Billions no doubt sellin' all that death gear to The Butcher, and oil. What "wages" are those....? <BR/><BR/>So stop being a big, "holier than thou" hypocrite Mah Mah ! If you wanna talk "evil" look at your own heroes Baby !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-40817326902004108572007-07-17T22:37:00.000+12:002007-07-17T22:37:00.000+12:00If you are upset that someone was friendly toward ...If you are upset that someone was friendly toward Saddam Hussein while he was living then you should be catatonic with rage that Western governments sold him weapons and chemical agents! But...probably not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-68054186077808367952007-07-17T08:15:00.000+12:002007-07-17T08:15:00.000+12:00"He's not evil. George Galloway has never killed a..."He's not evil. George Galloway has never killed anyone, unlike the policies of the current American and British administrations. That's inarguable."<BR/><BR/>Do you care about Galloway siding with Hezbollah during the Israeli-Lebanon War where Hezbollah and other terrorists kidnapped and killed Israeli soldiers?<BR/><BR/>Do you care that Galloway aligns himself with so-called Muslim groups in Britain that justify suicide bombers targeting Israeli Jews? How about Galloway being involved with the Oil for Food Program and being friendly toward Saddam Hussein when he was living?mah29001https://www.blogger.com/profile/14534560947847502694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-76408652648963426712007-07-17T08:09:00.000+12:002007-07-17T08:09:00.000+12:00He's not evil. George Galloway has never killed an...He's not evil. George Galloway has never killed anyone, unlike the policies of the current American and British administrations. That's inarguable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-3934766343415547772007-07-17T03:10:00.000+12:002007-07-17T03:10:00.000+12:00I wonder why can't Galloway explain himself of a p...I wonder why can't Galloway explain himself of a photo he took with Fidel Castro giving him a big bear hug? Or perhaps lining up with Soviet Russia during the Cold War?mah29001https://www.blogger.com/profile/14534560947847502694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-37092099792295531432007-07-16T22:28:00.000+12:002007-07-16T22:28:00.000+12:00I'm sure Stalin and Mao were right about some thin...I'm sure Stalin and Mao were right about some things too anon-that didn't make them any less evil.Trevor Loudonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17040453691836232676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18947592.post-87093446937839823072007-07-16T20:43:00.000+12:002007-07-16T20:43:00.000+12:00As Mr Galloway himself has said, everything he sai...As Mr Galloway himself has said, everything he said about what would happen in Iraq did happen, and everything the neo-cons said turned out to be wrong. You have to give the guy some credit, he was right on the money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com