Another Threat-Yippee!
Just got this anonymous comment on this post.
I told you before Trevor the childlover- a mask man ( a Markos resemblance) is watching you
I actually quite like this sort of comment for two reasons.
Firstly it tells me that my investigations into the "Urewera 17" etc are on track.
The misspelt "Markos" clearly refers to Zapatista leader Succomandante Marcos, the idol of the anarchists and Maori radicals involved in Tame Iti's "Quasi military" training camps.
If I wasn't uncomfortably close to the truth, these people would ignore me rather than indulge in this sort of behaviour.
If I wasn't upsetting my opponents there would be no fake Bebo page, no spoof blogs and no anonymous threats.
Secondly it illustrates my point that Labour's Electoral Finance Act is designed to intimidate dissenting voices.
If I had to put my residential address on this blog, I would be inviting retaliation from people like the commentor above.
As blogs are exempt (at present) that's OK, but virtually all other anti-government literature has to carry the authorisers residential address.
This renders anti-government activists (and their families) vulnerable to random nutters, malicious fanatics and the like.
Whether intended or not (and I believe it is) this will intimidate dissenters across the board.
Not a healthy situation.
I told you before Trevor the childlover- a mask man ( a Markos resemblance) is watching you
I actually quite like this sort of comment for two reasons.
Firstly it tells me that my investigations into the "Urewera 17" etc are on track.
The misspelt "Markos" clearly refers to Zapatista leader Succomandante Marcos, the idol of the anarchists and Maori radicals involved in Tame Iti's "Quasi military" training camps.
If I wasn't uncomfortably close to the truth, these people would ignore me rather than indulge in this sort of behaviour.
If I wasn't upsetting my opponents there would be no fake Bebo page, no spoof blogs and no anonymous threats.
Secondly it illustrates my point that Labour's Electoral Finance Act is designed to intimidate dissenting voices.
If I had to put my residential address on this blog, I would be inviting retaliation from people like the commentor above.
As blogs are exempt (at present) that's OK, but virtually all other anti-government literature has to carry the authorisers residential address.
This renders anti-government activists (and their families) vulnerable to random nutters, malicious fanatics and the like.
Whether intended or not (and I believe it is) this will intimidate dissenters across the board.
Not a healthy situation.
posted by Trevor Loudon at
1/31/2008 11:20:00 AM
21 Comments:
Trevor:
As a follower of your blog, I commend your courage in ignoring threats from such deluded lunatics.
Unfortunately most of the ratbag terrorists in the world are nut-cases, so you can never be complacent about such things. Thats what makes your forthright and brave stand so praiseworthy.
As a very ordinary citizen I thank you Trevor for your revelations on the Urewera idiots.
Very well done!
a fascist like trev watching people... no..
thats all this site is, watching peoples lives - a cross between the stasi and red watch - without so much threats.
hows ZAP going?
"a fascist like trev watching people..."
Fascist = anyone opposed to far-left extremism.Like yours anon.
Just thought I'd translate for our screwy little friend above.
EXOCET
I wouldn't take nutty comments on blogs too seriously Trev, we've all had them and if it's evidence of getting close to the truth, the truth must be a many and varied thing.
By the way, regarding your comment that putting residential addresses on blogs "renders anti-government activists (and their families) vulnerable to random nutters, malicious fanatics and the like", is that why you posted this a few months back?
"Sam Buchanan is a well known member of the Wildcat Anarchist Collective and apparently resides at 128 Abel Smith street."
Or does your rule only apply to you?
Cheers
Sam Buchanan
"a fascist like trev watching people... no..
thats all this site is, watching peoples lives - a cross between the stasi and red watch - without so much threats.
hows ZAP going?"
When has Trev called for violence over those he has exposed? Come on, name one time. You can't, because he never has.
It's people like you who also are the first ones to defend the threat coming from Communist China and Russia with pre-emptive nuclear strikes against the U.S. and Western Europe. But you would likely protest more use of America's nuclear usage, right?
Thanks guys.
Sam-your address is of political rather than personal significance.
Several anarchist groups-Zapatista Support Group, Latin America Committee etc meet at your house.
Several of the "Urewera 17" have lived at your house at one time or another.
Your house was raided by police looking for evidence.
If you are going to flat with people into running around the hills with napalm and automatic weapons you have to accept that where you live might become a matter of public interest.
Nice double standard there and a nice play and playing the victim with some bullshit anon comment. I hope it gets you all the sympathy you seem to be craving.
I know you think you are a topgun expose'ist, and that this has somehow made you a target to the 'enturbulators'. The reality is, youre a member of Church of Scientology, Z.A.P, Freemason, Order of Malta, Anti Communist going way past McCarthism, an Objectivist, a supporter of the Libertarianz who believes Hitler is to your left on the scale of politics, and that in my books makes you a cultist looney and worthy of a bit of baffoonery with our spoof site. We've received the odd death threat from your lot too Trev, pays to just get over it and move on.
My alter ego Trevour Loudoon says
"We've received the odd death threat from your lot too Trev, pays to just get over it and move on."
Completely untrue.
I don't associate with people who threaten others.
If I found one of my associates was doing that, I would happily dob them in to the cops.
Look elsewhere for the source of those alleged threats Trevour.
Sam-while it is true that none of those arrested were then living at your house, several of them had lived there.
Your address was broadcast on national TV, so I doubt my publicising your address in new Zeal significantly invaded your privacy.
The problem is that you effectively live at a political HQ, rather than a conventional private residence.
Just as if you choose to live at a gang HQ, you cannot expect privacy if some of your associates get up to mischief.
"If I wasn't upsetting my opponents there would be no fake Bebo page, no spoof blogs and no anonymous threats."
People are easy to upset Loudon, you just have to defame them long enough and they'll react. Its human nature not some special technique you've developed.
Great trick BTW, to lump all your opponents into one group. You have slagged off at a lot of people from a lot of different groups so why be surprised if a few of them take you on. Im not advocating death threats here but there is a huge chasm between spoof websiting and silly death threats.
Sam, when the police raided the house in Wellington, I think most of people living in Wellington knew where the house actually is.
It's kind of already in the public domain whether you like it or not.
It's not like Trevor is stalking you and posting information that isn't already known to the general public.
Trevor is stalking Sam, theres no two ways about it. Its more of a net stalking than the 'hang around your house sniffing undies on the clothes line' stalking.
Yeah see now all those scientology nutbags know where Sam stays and will be heading around to Sams house to demand he explain why he is being an enturbulator. "What are you hiding Sam???, why are you enturbulating????"
Oh knock it off anonymous. What you're doing is outright harassment. I am pretty sure that if there are laws in place in New Zealand, the targets of your harassment have the every means of exposing who you really are.
The left- its always the same strategy- when they've no answer to your arguments, they turn to demonisation. The attack blog and the fake bebo page are the work of ignorant cowards.
"I am pretty sure that if there are laws in place in New Zealand"
No the law hasn't reached here yet, were still living in trees in NZ. Coke is here though, so I guess 'the law' will follow.
No Redbaiter this is typical right wing behaviour. You say the publishing of residential address' inihibits your freedom to dissent, and then do exactly the same thing to anyone you deem worthy. Its the Hypocracy of calling yourself a libertarian when infact the only liberty you're interested in is the economic kind.
Sam,
To be fair to Trevor, anyone watching the news would know where you live. Remember answering your door to tv cameras?
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I'm quite happy with Trev pointing out that 128 is a place where political meetings, poetry readings and planning of demonstrations and the like goes on. I've said so myself and I'm not secretive about the fact.
But Trev decided to go further than that and stated that I was a resident at that address, something he strongly objects to other people having to do. I don't think the Labour government should make the call that politically active people should be required to publish their addresses, and I don't think it should be Trev's call to decide that it's OK to publish my (and other people's) address because he's decided it's justified in this case.
Oh, by the way, I don't live at 128 Abel Smith Street.
Cheerio,
Sam Buchanan
Anonymous,
Knock off the threats. You sound just like British neo-Nazi activist Simon Sheppard who likely does the same thing toward attacking political opponents of the British National Party.
So, just who is closer to being a Fascist now?
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