Listen Up John Key-Ignore Smacking Referendum At Your Peril
If PM John Key thinks he can ignore the results of a referendum that WILL OVERWHELMINGLY support the re-legalization of smacking he can bloody well think again.
David Farrar at KiwiBlog published this email from a reader.
I would like politicians to know why the anti-smacking debate is important to me and people like me– This is why National and John Key need to be be careful about something that they consider unimportant.
I voted for John Key in the last election but I voted for Helen Clark in 1999 and 2002. I like John Key and believe his positive attitude is good for New Zealand but if he continues making those statements like yesterday I will vote for Labour again, or ACT (at least Rodney is against this bill). This is not a threat just a fact. Myself and my wife believe that the Government should spend my money to pave the roads, keep my safe and provide a bit of entertainment (ah la Richard Worth). I expect nothing from the government unless I am completely screwed. (that is why I would hate to vote for Labour again)
I am a father of 3 girls ages 5 and under. I have never smacked two of them and the other one (who I love equally) does get smacked about twice a year. She is stronger willed and more likely to bully the others. She is probably more like to succeed tooJ
The reason I am so angry with JK’s attitude is because I have to deal with the normal bullshit everyone else has to deal with like housing costs, bills, rates etc but the fact that if my wife or I feel that a smack is deserved occasionally is my business not anyone else’s. The fact that CYFS can take our children away if we break this law would destroy us. Therefore we will do whatever we decide to keep our little world together, even it means voting for someone I don’t like because I don’t expect any from the government I really don’t care who’s there. Most of my friends are the same we all work hard and try our best to bring up good children (we don’t all succeed every day). …
I know that an occasional smack works with some children and makes them better people. This is not a debate that Plunket (who have lost touch with parents) and the Government need to worry about as there are thousands of Parents who “know” the same thing. New Zealand is basically a good country and it is the fear that my children could be taken away that is more important to me than any economic policy, climate change strategy or social welfare policy could ever be. If I lose my job I have my family, if I lose my family I have nothing.
This fear may be unfounded but Sue Bradford’s law does not allow for people like me - people who abide by the law and care about their family. The party (or person) who can allay this fear will win the next election. Chester Burrows amendment to s59. I thought was perfect. It would actually secure them the next election by implementing the wishes of the people.
I am sending this email because John Key lost more votes with his attitude over the smacking referendum then he will ever lose over Richard Worth, Melissa Lee or Christine Rankin combined – none of them effected my life, this bill does.
I want John Key to be our Prime Minister after 2011 but he needs to understand he needs to treat this issue with respect. The thought of Phil Goff being the next PM is horrible but it might happen if John Key thinks this current law works – it doesn’t because it makes parents criminals.
This comment from Lucia Maria sums it up well.
Nothing the current Government has done has made me as angry. Canned the tax cuts. Fine. Going ga-ga over climate change. Fine. Can’t help that there seems to be a world-wide push to make money off the new kyoto tax scheme. NZ being part of it I have to bear with gritted teeth while reduced sunspot activity is making the planet colder.
Like the writer of the email I can cope with insanity around me. Just.
But when that insanity is a constant, indirect threat to my family that the Prime Minister thinks is nothing, when he thinks that the referendum question can be ignored, never-mind that it is a really clear, easily understandable question. And he knows what it means. Only an idiot would not understand it.
I am just furious. I voted for National this time around because Labour is scary. Labour’s social engineering ideas are off the planet. Financial measures are easily rolled back in comparison to the social changes that government is imposing upon the country.
This issue is THE TEST of what this Government stands for. And they are failing, horrendously.
I still remember what John Key looked like when he helped Helen Clark pass that bill. He was happy. He was pleased with himself. He looked like he was finally in with the big boys, nevermind that he walked all over the good parents of NZ in doing so.
The gloves are now off at NZ Conservative. National and JK gets no more wait and see from me.
Hear bloody hear!
I encourage readers to send his e-mail to the PM and his local National MP.
David Farrar at KiwiBlog published this email from a reader.
I would like politicians to know why the anti-smacking debate is important to me and people like me– This is why National and John Key need to be be careful about something that they consider unimportant.
I voted for John Key in the last election but I voted for Helen Clark in 1999 and 2002. I like John Key and believe his positive attitude is good for New Zealand but if he continues making those statements like yesterday I will vote for Labour again, or ACT (at least Rodney is against this bill). This is not a threat just a fact. Myself and my wife believe that the Government should spend my money to pave the roads, keep my safe and provide a bit of entertainment (ah la Richard Worth). I expect nothing from the government unless I am completely screwed. (that is why I would hate to vote for Labour again)
I am a father of 3 girls ages 5 and under. I have never smacked two of them and the other one (who I love equally) does get smacked about twice a year. She is stronger willed and more likely to bully the others. She is probably more like to succeed tooJ
The reason I am so angry with JK’s attitude is because I have to deal with the normal bullshit everyone else has to deal with like housing costs, bills, rates etc but the fact that if my wife or I feel that a smack is deserved occasionally is my business not anyone else’s. The fact that CYFS can take our children away if we break this law would destroy us. Therefore we will do whatever we decide to keep our little world together, even it means voting for someone I don’t like because I don’t expect any from the government I really don’t care who’s there. Most of my friends are the same we all work hard and try our best to bring up good children (we don’t all succeed every day). …
I know that an occasional smack works with some children and makes them better people. This is not a debate that Plunket (who have lost touch with parents) and the Government need to worry about as there are thousands of Parents who “know” the same thing. New Zealand is basically a good country and it is the fear that my children could be taken away that is more important to me than any economic policy, climate change strategy or social welfare policy could ever be. If I lose my job I have my family, if I lose my family I have nothing.
This fear may be unfounded but Sue Bradford’s law does not allow for people like me - people who abide by the law and care about their family. The party (or person) who can allay this fear will win the next election. Chester Burrows amendment to s59. I thought was perfect. It would actually secure them the next election by implementing the wishes of the people.
I am sending this email because John Key lost more votes with his attitude over the smacking referendum then he will ever lose over Richard Worth, Melissa Lee or Christine Rankin combined – none of them effected my life, this bill does.
I want John Key to be our Prime Minister after 2011 but he needs to understand he needs to treat this issue with respect. The thought of Phil Goff being the next PM is horrible but it might happen if John Key thinks this current law works – it doesn’t because it makes parents criminals.
This comment from Lucia Maria sums it up well.
Nothing the current Government has done has made me as angry. Canned the tax cuts. Fine. Going ga-ga over climate change. Fine. Can’t help that there seems to be a world-wide push to make money off the new kyoto tax scheme. NZ being part of it I have to bear with gritted teeth while reduced sunspot activity is making the planet colder.
Like the writer of the email I can cope with insanity around me. Just.
But when that insanity is a constant, indirect threat to my family that the Prime Minister thinks is nothing, when he thinks that the referendum question can be ignored, never-mind that it is a really clear, easily understandable question. And he knows what it means. Only an idiot would not understand it.
I am just furious. I voted for National this time around because Labour is scary. Labour’s social engineering ideas are off the planet. Financial measures are easily rolled back in comparison to the social changes that government is imposing upon the country.
This issue is THE TEST of what this Government stands for. And they are failing, horrendously.
I still remember what John Key looked like when he helped Helen Clark pass that bill. He was happy. He was pleased with himself. He looked like he was finally in with the big boys, nevermind that he walked all over the good parents of NZ in doing so.
The gloves are now off at NZ Conservative. National and JK gets no more wait and see from me.
Hear bloody hear!
I encourage readers to send his e-mail to the PM and his local National MP.
posted by Trevor Loudon at
6/18/2009 10:28:00 PM
8 Comments:
The bottom line is that the intellectual left can demean and belittle authors of such letters, but until they pick up a gun and start shooting them dead, those same peole will reject their ideology and it's supporters - including John Key.
It is becoming more clear to me that Key has a hidden leftist agenda using this sitting on the fence technique to cover it up.
Hidden leftist agenda? Key's has always been left wing - the fact that they refused to get rid of working for families and replace it with a robust tax free threshold is the ultimate indicator as to where he thinks the power should lay in regards to the role of government.
Wow Catholics voted for National, that’s an expose worth breaking.
And N.Z Conservative, a Christian blog-site, wants a return to the biblical tenants of ‘sparing the rod’ - that’s another revelation.
With Bill English, Gerry Brownlee all having a major say on policy, The National Party is all but a mouth-piece for Opus Dei in the South Pacific.
What I want to know is who will the outraged Lucia Maria vote for at the next election, to show her distain at the back-tracking John Key and crew?
Once a Catholic, always a Catholic.
Once a National Party voter, always a National Party voter.
Cheers.
Paul
What extactly was the point of your rather smug little post Paul?
EXOCET
Kaiwai you must be new to this blog. The left according to New Zeal, are those that support communism and its many spin-offs, like Nazism and Al Qaeda. The right is apparently everyone else.
Family fist
What a delusioned bunch of kid bashers - all fired up with John Key a conspiracist, leftie sleeper ???
Said it many times - grow up you childish idiots, or see a therapist.
Your obsessions are bleeding you.....
Kia Ora !
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