Russia Seducing Indonesia Into Marxist/Muslim Alliance?
While China works on Japan, Russia is attempting to seduce Indonesia into the Russo/Chinese led Marxist/Muslim Alliance.
From BBC News
Hat Tip Zionist Anti Communist
Russian President Vladimir Putin has witnessed the signing of a deal in Jakarta to give Indonesia a state loan of $1bn (£500m) to buy Russian arms.
Mr Putin also held talks with his Indonesian counterpart Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono during the one-day visit.
Indonesian armed forces are badly equipped, following years of sanctions from the EU and US.
Indonesia will use the Russian cash to plug the holes in its ageing arsenal, with a shopping list including attack helicopters, submarines and amphibious tanks.
Indonesian-Russian relations have become closer since a meeting in Moscow last December, when the leaders pledged to improve economic and military ties.
Indonesia has already bought several jets from Russia. The new deal makes Moscow its main foreign arms supplier.
In a recent op ed published in Novosti Russian president Vladimir Putin wrote of his plans for better Russia/Indonesia relations.
Some extracts;
Embarking on an official visit to Indonesia, I would like to share a few thoughts about present and future relations between our countries, about the foundations of our cooperation for over half a century, and the prospects for our work together at the beginning of the new millennium.
Looking back at the history of Indonesia-Russia relations we first of all recall their most glorious moments. Our country was among the first to acknowledge the independence of Indonesia and express solidarity with the Indonesian people fighting for their freedom. We are proud to note the assistance of Soviet experts in building the Krakatau steel plant, the highway network in Kalimantan, the research nuclear reactor in Jogjakarta, the Friendship Hospital and the Bung Karno Stadium in Jakarta.
I cannot help mentioning that recently the relations between Russia and Indonesia have gained a new momentum and become an important issue on the international agenda of our countries.
Political dialogue between Moscow and Jakarta has been developing steadily. The official visit of Mr. Susilo Yudhoyono, President of the Republic of Indonesia, to Moscow late last year was a significant event with tangible results, confirming that Russian-Indonesian cooperation has a promising future, in the spirit of the 2003 Declaration on Principles of Friendly and Partnership Relations between the two countries in the 21st century. Increased inter-parliamentary relations and intensified cooperation between various ministries and other agencies show that both sides are interested in promoting their cooperation.
We note the dynamic and independent foreign policy of Jakarta seeking to play a constructive role in world and regional affairs. The election of Indonesia as a non-permanent member of the UN Security Council for 2007‑2008 testifies to the acknowledgement of its international prestige. Due to the proximity of our positions on the key issues of today Indonesian and Russian representatives are closely cooperating within the framework of the United Nations.
Last December President Susilo Yudhoyono visited the Cathedral Mosque in St. Petersburg – the biggest in Russia and one of the most important mosques in Europe. It is not just a symbol for us. We support mutual respect in all matters concerning culture and civilization. The dialogue with Indonesia as one of the leading states in the Muslim world and as a country with the largest Muslim population is of particular interest for Russia. We are ready to search together for ways of establishing an interconfessional mutual understanding, so necessary under the present circumstances - including within the framework of the Organization of the Islamic Conference, where our country obtained observer status with the support of Indonesia.
We consider Indonesia as a key and promising partner of Russia in the Asia-Pacific region, and as one of the most important "growth points" of the world economy.
From BBC News
Hat Tip Zionist Anti Communist
Russian President Vladimir Putin has witnessed the signing of a deal in Jakarta to give Indonesia a state loan of $1bn (£500m) to buy Russian arms.
Mr Putin also held talks with his Indonesian counterpart Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono during the one-day visit.
Indonesian armed forces are badly equipped, following years of sanctions from the EU and US.
Indonesia will use the Russian cash to plug the holes in its ageing arsenal, with a shopping list including attack helicopters, submarines and amphibious tanks.
Indonesian-Russian relations have become closer since a meeting in Moscow last December, when the leaders pledged to improve economic and military ties.
Indonesia has already bought several jets from Russia. The new deal makes Moscow its main foreign arms supplier.
In a recent op ed published in Novosti Russian president Vladimir Putin wrote of his plans for better Russia/Indonesia relations.
Some extracts;
Embarking on an official visit to Indonesia, I would like to share a few thoughts about present and future relations between our countries, about the foundations of our cooperation for over half a century, and the prospects for our work together at the beginning of the new millennium.
Looking back at the history of Indonesia-Russia relations we first of all recall their most glorious moments. Our country was among the first to acknowledge the independence of Indonesia and express solidarity with the Indonesian people fighting for their freedom. We are proud to note the assistance of Soviet experts in building the Krakatau steel plant, the highway network in Kalimantan, the research nuclear reactor in Jogjakarta, the Friendship Hospital and the Bung Karno Stadium in Jakarta.
I cannot help mentioning that recently the relations between Russia and Indonesia have gained a new momentum and become an important issue on the international agenda of our countries.
Political dialogue between Moscow and Jakarta has been developing steadily. The official visit of Mr. Susilo Yudhoyono, President of the Republic of Indonesia, to Moscow late last year was a significant event with tangible results, confirming that Russian-Indonesian cooperation has a promising future, in the spirit of the 2003 Declaration on Principles of Friendly and Partnership Relations between the two countries in the 21st century. Increased inter-parliamentary relations and intensified cooperation between various ministries and other agencies show that both sides are interested in promoting their cooperation.
We note the dynamic and independent foreign policy of Jakarta seeking to play a constructive role in world and regional affairs. The election of Indonesia as a non-permanent member of the UN Security Council for 2007‑2008 testifies to the acknowledgement of its international prestige. Due to the proximity of our positions on the key issues of today Indonesian and Russian representatives are closely cooperating within the framework of the United Nations.
Last December President Susilo Yudhoyono visited the Cathedral Mosque in St. Petersburg – the biggest in Russia and one of the most important mosques in Europe. It is not just a symbol for us. We support mutual respect in all matters concerning culture and civilization. The dialogue with Indonesia as one of the leading states in the Muslim world and as a country with the largest Muslim population is of particular interest for Russia. We are ready to search together for ways of establishing an interconfessional mutual understanding, so necessary under the present circumstances - including within the framework of the Organization of the Islamic Conference, where our country obtained observer status with the support of Indonesia.
We consider Indonesia as a key and promising partner of Russia in the Asia-Pacific region, and as one of the most important "growth points" of the world economy.
posted by Trevor Loudon at
9/08/2007 09:48:00 AM
8 Comments:
There was also a very large rally held by a known "Islamist" party in Indonesia a few months ago hoping to resurrect an Islamic caliph. But Indonesia under its so-called pro-U.S./pro-Western authoritarian dictatorships in the past and even under its current democratic state have often pretended to be pro-U.S./pro-Western.
I should also mention that Communist China also targeted Indonesia for recruitment when the Soviet-Sino "Split" was well in order.
I should also mention that the "al-Qaedish" groups in Indonesia also cited a late Marxist radical conspiracy theorist who stated that the Bali bombings were "implemented" by a "CIA mini-nuke". I don't have the name of that late Marxist radical conspiracy theorist, but radical "Islamist" groups have cited his site as a reason of how they were "framed" to be implicable in the operation.
Trev I think you've got it a bit wrong.
Indonesia is simply wanting to diversify its arms suppliers. As you probably know the Indonesian Military needs quite a steady supply of arms to suppress/oppress people in West Papua and also to quell the protests of domestic groups, such as peasants and workers. Usually the US, Australia, Britain and France provide a fairly steady supply of weapons.
However, these states offer a certain degree of free speech to their citizens. This means that every so often human rights activists are able to kick up a huge fuss about arms exports to Indonesia, which threatens the supply. For example in 1999 when the human rights abuses in East Timor became too public to hide anymore, these Western nations cut military links with Indonesia until the start of the war on terror. These types of people don't pose much of a problem in Russia because they already have enough domestic issues to deal with, such as Putin's crackdown on opposition, war on Chechnya, poverty etc.
Considering that Indonesian law still bans the 'dissemination and teaching of Marxist/Communist/Leninist ideas' your Russia/China/Marxist/Muslim Alliance theory sounds pretty nuts. The only reason these deals are happening is because the rather horrible ruling class of Indonesia knows how to protect its interests pretty well and that means ensuring a steady supply of arms.
Fair enough Cameron. Indonesia is being drawn into a new power-bloc, as are India and Japan.
This bloc will be led by Russia and China and based around the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation.
The incentives will be military, economic and geopolitical-not ideological.
Russia and China will keep their underlying ideology in the background until the new alliance is well locked in.
Indonesia is being burnt off by the West, which leaves it only one place to go.
Japan and China being drawn into a power bloc, yeah and pigs will fly. Things between them are still pretty bad remember and Abe's government is doing little to help that.
Burnt off by the West ? I hardly think so, the West should be doing its utmost to maintain good relations with Indonesia and apart from the whole Playboy fiasco last year and residual difficulties over Timor, I don't see relations being in a particularly bad state.
I sincereely hope you're right and I'm wrong Fergus. Time will tell.
Yeah I agree with Fergus Indonesia-Western relations (between the govt/corporate elite) are going very well. NZ, US and Australia have all restarted military links with Indonesia.
Indonesia is keep its military links with the Westerners but also making some links with the Russians just in case another thing like the East Timor crisis in late 1999 pops up.
We'll in the end it boils down to Indonesian territorial integrity. Looking back since Independence it was always the West who formented conflict within Indonesia; Surabaya Incident 1947 - 1949 British/Dutch attempt to gain foothold in Java after Japanese Surrender - over 45,000 Indonesias died;PRRI 1958, Alan Pope Incident another 15,000 died; Suharto Rise to power and Sukarno's downfall;So it is not suprising who you consider friends.
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